dayday88 12-03-2008, 02:18 AM So A Couple Of My Friends Told Me I Couldnt Learn To Ride.. So I'm Hell Bent On Provin Them Wrong!!
Anyone Know Where I Can Find An Old Bike For Cheap. I Just Want To Get Used To A Clutch On Two Wheels. I Have A Six Speed Car So I Know The Jist Of It, But Everyone Tells Me The Two Are Way Different ...
Any Help Would Be Great, I Have Been Around Bikes For As Long As I Can Remember So Im Not Completely Stupid When It Comes To Them And My Sister Rides, But She Wont Loan Me Her Bike :( Lol
Thanks For Any Info You Could Give Me!!! ;d
K2thJ 12-03-2008, 03:21 AM Take an MSF course. You'd use their managable bikes with no worries about dropping yours or a friend's.
Take an MSF course. You'd use their managable bikes with no worries about dropping yours or a friend's.
+1 Good plan :) not only do you get taught to ride a bike from step 1 to the test, they also provide valuable info on technique and how to not be a statistic.
I had a ten year layover from bikes after riding 20 years and I did the MSF just to remind me of anything I may have forgotten over those years. I found the MSF most enjoyable and interesting. I recommend it to anyone.
And welcome to SVR.
jbswear 12-03-2008, 06:46 AM Take the safety course, as mentioned above. Only an idiot would do otherwise. Please prove you aren't an idiot.
Walka 12-03-2008, 07:43 AM Take the safety course, as mentioned above. Only an idiot would do otherwise. Please prove you aren't an idiot.
...i've never taken that course :'(
i have a 1999 kawasaki ninja 500r for sale 12k miles on it
i was trying to get maybe 2200 but ill let it go for 2k to help you with gas on picking it up :)
jbswear 12-03-2008, 07:52 AM ...i've never taken that course :'(
i have a 1999 kawasaki ninja 500r for sale 12k miles on it
i was trying to get maybe 2200 but ill let it go for 2k to help you with gas on picking it up :)
I recommend it for any rider. It has saved my life innumerable times. I've taken it four times in 17 years.
stop yelling dayday, we're here to help ;D
jbswear 12-03-2008, 08:04 AM Ouch!
Okay, back on subject...Keep your eyes pasted to your local Craigslist site. You will find hundreds of bikes there, from basket cases to $30k phallic extensions.
cfreger 12-03-2008, 09:02 AM +1 on MSF.
Just curious as to why your friends say you can't learn to ride, and why your sister won't loan you her bike? Are you particularly accident-prone? Uncoordinated? Irresponsible? A bad driver? Hot-tempered?
Also, why do you want to ride? One of the points addressed in the MSF curriculum is the importance of having the proper mental attitude toward riding. This includes an honest assessment of the risks and rewards of motorcycling, so the rider can maximize the rewards, while minimizing the risks. IMO, "Provin Them Wrong!!" is not a good reason to ride, and could get you into trouble.
Not everyone belongs on a bike. There's no shame in not riding. If your friends and family think that motorcycling is not for you, maybe you need to realistically consider their opinions, before you get hurt.
OTOH, I have no idea who you are, so I couid be way off base. Also, it's pretty hard to hurt yourself in the MSF RiderCourse (but, it can be done), so maybe you should just take a class, and see how it goes. As a reality check, though, consider that the course, while very informative and worthwhile, is designed to be unintimidating to anyone -- even a person with zero knowledge or experience regarding motorcycles (i.e., it's really easy). If you find that the course is difficult, well, there's your answer....
Omofo 12-03-2008, 09:13 AM I recommend it for any rider. It has saved my life innumerable times. I've taken it four times in 17 years.
I don't mean to offend but if you've had to take the course 4 times maybe you are the idiot and shouldn't be riding. j/k:icon_joker:
jbswear 12-03-2008, 09:19 AM I don't mean to offend but if you've had to take the course 4 times maybe you are the idiot and shouldn't be riding. j/k:icon_joker:
;D
First time was at 15, to get my license.
Second time was upon reporting to my first military command, in Hawaii.
Third time was upon reporting to another military command, in Maryland.
Fourth time was an opening in a free course offered by the military (I had since been out of the Corps for a few years). This time it was the ERC, not the BRC. I figured that it had been four years and what the heck, it was free!
In the military (well, at least when I was in), most duty stations required you to take their safety course to be allowed to ride on base.
Most safety proponents recommend taking the safety course once every five years or so, to brush up on basic skills.
Omofo 12-03-2008, 09:53 AM After reading about more marines dying in m/c accidents then combat I can understand why the military requires it.
jbswear 12-03-2008, 09:58 AM Actually, I've never been stationed on a Marine base, aside from boot camp and a leadership course I took years ago. I've always been stationed on Navy, Army, or Air Force bases!
But yeah, most combat survivors come back and feel invulnerable.
Omofo 12-03-2008, 10:04 AM Actually, I've never been stationed on a Marine base, aside from boot camp and a leadership course I took years ago. I've always been stationed on Navy, Army, or Air Force bases!
But yeah, most combat survivors come back and feel invulnerable.
It's hard to not feel invincable after surviving life threatening situations. What's your MOS.
Fatass SVS 12-03-2008, 10:04 AM Where are you? Dover, Delaware?
Dover New Hampshire?
Dover, U.K?
Dover-Foxcroft, Maine?
Location might influence riding training suggestions.
jbswear 12-03-2008, 10:07 AM It's hard to not feel invincable after surviving life threatening situations. What's your MOS.
My first enlistment was as a 2621--Manual Morse Code Interceptor. My second was as a 2643--Serbian/Croatian Translator. Unfortunately, somebody called off the war a week before I graduated the language course as a fluent speaker/reader/writer. I was sent to rot at NSA for three years instead of going to Serbia.
I had re-upped for the sole purpose of hitting Europe, as I had been to several Asian countries.
My first enlistment was as a 2621--Manual Morse Code Interceptor. My second was as a 2643--Serbian/Croatian Translator. Unfortunately, somebody called off the war a week before I graduated the language course as a fluent speaker/reader/writer. I was sent to rot at NSA for three years instead of going to Serbia.
I had re-upped for the sole purpose of hitting Europe, as I had been to several Asian countries.
And this is why nobody is scared of your corps talk :nana:
jbswear 12-03-2008, 10:13 AM And this is why nobody is scared of your corps talk :nana:
Maybe they'd like to know what I did on one of those submarine trips to North Korea...
;)
Maybe they'd like to know what I did on one of those submarine trips to North Korea...
;)
no, nobody wants to hear about that, I assure you. :sissies:
Omofo 12-03-2008, 10:25 AM Don't ask don't tell, right?
jbswear 12-03-2008, 10:36 AM :)
nyc rugby 12-03-2008, 03:06 PM Maybe they'd like to know what I did on one of those submarine trips to North Korea...
;)
Yeah, yeah, tube full of semen, we know...
J-Dog 12-03-2008, 03:25 PM Yeah, yeah, tube full of semen, we know...
Don't forget!
It was designed to go down, over and over again.
Damit, this is just too easy.
cfreger 12-03-2008, 03:46 PM And so another SVR thread implodes....
dayday88 12-03-2008, 11:09 PM ok I am not an idiot when it comes to bikes. I have been around them alot!!! Every guy I have ever dated has had one, I ride with them all the time help them fix them etc... Im not a klutz, I have a good head on my shoulders. I have rode with alot of people I just want to be the one in control. I drove with my ex bf on the back so he could tell me what to do. I'm just nervous to be by myself and wanted to know how all of you started out... I work for the Dept of Transportation so I know about the course but they dont supply the bikes here. I am def going to take the course though Thanks!!!
dayday88 12-03-2008, 11:10 PM I am from Dover, Delaware
Where are you? Dover, Delaware?
Dover New Hampshire?
Dover, U.K?
Dover-Foxcroft, Maine?
Location might influence riding training suggestions.
tlc4diving 12-03-2008, 11:28 PM Wow, what a challenge. Good luck, I'm sure with determination you will prove them wrong quick.
Like a couple of people have already said, take the MSF course. Once you do that if you are still interested, keep an eye out for a cheap bike. Something like a Buell Blast or GS500. With it being the off season for riding you sould be able to find something fairly easy.
Walka 12-04-2008, 08:04 AM or this ninja 500r like i said i was selling :)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v325/Walkman5410/My%20Bike/0710081947a.jpg
cfreger 12-04-2008, 11:27 AM ok I am not an idiot when it comes to bikes....
So, it looks like friends and family are just being over-protective? (Wasn't sure you were a female; maybe that has something to do with their opinions?) Try not to let their voices get inside your head. If this is something you want for you (and not just to show them up), then do it!
AFAIK, the Basic RiderCourse has a 500cc limit, and the course provider supplies the bikes. (Are you sure you're not thinking of the Experienced RiderCourse? That one requires the student to supply the bike.)
Try asking a few Harley-Davidson dealers whether they offer the H-D Rider's Edge course. It is the same as the BRC, and uses dealer-supplied Buell Blasts, exclusively.
Good luck.
EDIT: Okay, you're mistaken about the availability of motorcycles for the BRC. Delaware Motor Vehicle Regulation 2219 provides that the BRC proivider must supply the appropriate motorcycles. The actual text is below, along with the link so you can look it up, yourself:
12.1.4 Training Motorcycles used for BRC courses:
12.1.4.1 Any motorcycle model manufactured for on-highway use that meets two (2) of the following three (3) criteria (as published by the original equipment manufacturer/distributor) may be used.
• An engine displacement of 500cc or less
• An unladen weight of 400 pounds or less
• A seat height of 30” or less
12.1.4.2 Provide one of the above for each participant taking part in the on-cycle sessions of the BRC. A minimum of six (6) motorcycles is required per training program. It is recommended that one additional motorcycle be available for use in demonstrations and as a replacement.
12.1.4.3 No motorcycle with a defect which could impair handling or control will be permitted in the program. Off-road motorcycles or extensively modified “choppers” will not be permitted.
http://regulations.delaware.gov/AdminCode/title2/2000/2200/Driver/2219.shtml
J-Dog 12-04-2008, 11:45 AM +1 On the Riders Edge Course. I took it and was quite impressed.
SV Mania 12-04-2008, 11:52 AM Check the local newspaper and craigslist. In some cases you may be able to score some free gear. How much do you want to spend on a bike to learn on?
Hi. Get the permit at DMV, I believe you need it in order to take MSF course. Get a bike around 500cc with seat height where you can touch the ground flat footed. Then be careful and enjoy :)
jdewkilla 12-26-2008, 03:48 PM umm.. riding is really really really really easy to do
..BUT..
REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY hard to learn.
If your not an athletic-ish type you are more likely to get hurt when you hit the ground, simply because you likely dont know what tuck and roll means.
Also you should expect to fall, at some point, so dont let in the fear.
My wife or hopefully someday ex-wife has a 2008 ninja 250 with 1200 miles on it, that she's only ridden twice before she dropped it. Not sure she has the confidence to get back on, so she may be selling it come spring time if you can wait that long
jdewkilla 12-26-2008, 05:28 PM I would say that 5 hours of instruction wont learn you as much as spending an hour riding alone.
I enjoy riding because it is the only thing i have experienced that requires absolute focus. Its primal. Its the only thing I can do everyday. You can never get too much time in the saddle. It is intense and relaxing at the same time. It is Fight AND Flight.
Its hard to teach someone how to ride. It takes an extra specail kind of girl to get back on a bike after falling.. most of them ride for attention, not because the think it is the greatest experience in life.
Fishy 12-31-2008, 01:19 PM hit up your local metric dealer, this time of year they have all kinds of trades that are just taking up space. Chat someone up and if there is anything in the smaller sport bike ranges you can prob get a really good deal. Some places have left over GSX650F or whatever replaced the katana. Not sure if you can find one but last year I had a dealer down to about 3500 on a brand new in the box GSX500F, http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/6355/gsx650fbluwht1183005054oz9.jpg, not the coolest or fastest but inexpensive new enough that it wont give you any mechanical problems and very inexpensive. Hell depending on your size and all that good stuff AND on how long you plan on keeping the bike you can get on of those new 250 ninja's brand new MSRP is 3999.00 for an 2009!! You would def out grow it but if your just looking to tool around on something while you learn thats not a bad looking ride...http://www.montgomeryvillecc.com/new_vehicle_detail.asp?sid=03524439X12K31K2008J1I1 7I31JPMQ917R0&veh=88069&CatDesc=Motorcycles&ModelYear=2009
Muddturtle3 01-08-2009, 11:42 PM My wife or hopefully someday ex-wife has a 2008 ninja 250 with 1200 miles on it, that she's only ridden twice before she dropped it. Not sure she has the confidence to get back on, so she may be selling it come spring time if you can wait that long
SVR discount? I may know a few interested parties...either that or if i land a job soon after my lay off i'd pick it up just for fun.
SpeedisaVirus 01-12-2009, 08:00 PM I am from Dover, Delaware
:rock::occasion14::rock:
:banjo:
7Zark7 01-13-2009, 12:48 PM :rock::occasion14::rock:
:banjo:
So teach the girl how to ride, Slappy! :)
SpeedisaVirus 01-13-2009, 12:57 PM So teach the girl how to ride, Slappy! :)
If the lady would like assistance I am local and none too busy.
Feel free to contact me dayday
Muddturtle3 01-13-2009, 03:10 PM If the lady would like assistance I am local and none too busy.
Feel free to contact me dayday
none too busy = unemployed ;D
SpeedisaVirus 01-13-2009, 04:52 PM none too busy = unemployed ;D
Meh, lightly employed. I do odd jobs whenever I feel like it. It's all good. I am going to enjoy it for the last year of student-hood.
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