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Kris87

10-20-2005, 12:48 PM

this is definitely the best place to ask for REAL hp #'s. i laugh at some of the claims these guys get with the mods they've done. but i know every dyno is different, but i can say that my bike's #'s came off the mobile dynojet truck they use at the AMA races, so take that for what its worth.

you'll never see 85hp like mentioned above without serious motor work. especially on pump gas. just wont happen. you wont see much above 75 hp with any amount of mods, unless you got some motor work and good race gas. i saw plenty of SV's at the cup that had minor motor mods, full systems, and VP MR1 and MR9 race gas make 73-76 hp. my bike has normal ss motor mods: milled head, raised compression, degreed cam timing, thinner head gasket, custom teka map, M4 ti system, and VP MR1 and it made 78 hp. thats about right. last year my motor was a little hotter and it made 81.

so dont believe everything you read on here.

treoff

10-20-2005, 01:00 PM

this is definitely the best place to ask for REAL hp #'s.* i laugh at some of the claims these guys get with the mods they've done.* but i know every dyno is different, but i can say that my bike's #'s came off the mobile dynojet truck they use at the AMA races, so take that for what its worth.*

you'll never see 85hp like mentioned above without serious motor work.* especially on pump gas.* *just wont happen.* you wont see much above 75 hp with any amount of mods, unless you got some motor work and good race gas.* i saw plenty of SV's at the cup that had minor motor mods, full systems, and VP MR1 and MR9 race gas make 73-76 hp.* my bike has normal ss motor mods: milled head, raised compression, degreed cam timing, thinner head gasket, custom teka map, M4 ti system, and VP MR1 and it made 78 hp.* *thats about right.* last year my motor was a little hotter and it made 81.*

so dont believe everything you read on here.*

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wonderjosh

10-20-2005, 01:04 PM

ALIENS PROBED MY EXHAUST AND I GAINED 20hp! :o

jarelj

10-20-2005, 02:46 PM

this is definitely the best place to ask for REAL hp #'s.* i laugh at some of the claims these guys get with the mods they've done.* but i know every dyno is different, but i can say that my bike's #'s came off the mobile dynojet truck they use at the AMA races, so take that for what its worth.*

you'll never see 85hp like mentioned above without serious motor work.* especially on pump gas.* *just wont happen.* you wont see much above 75 hp with any amount of mods, unless you got some motor work and good race gas.* i saw plenty of SV's at the cup that had minor motor mods, full systems, and VP MR1 and MR9 race gas make 73-76 hp.* my bike has normal ss motor mods: milled head, raised compression, degreed cam timing, thinner head gasket, custom teka map, M4 ti system, and VP MR1 and it made 78 hp.* *thats about right.* last year my motor was a little hotter and it made 81.*

so dont believe everything you read on here.*

Very true Kris, we had to spend THOUSANDS to get 85+ horsepower! :-\

DucOwner

10-20-2005, 04:02 PM

Jarel - Except for TWF because Zoran gets 85 HP without ever opening up a motor. Just because no one else ever has is not important, it must be true since it came from the "burning bush" (some a$$ clown on one of the lists refers to him as that, freakin' waterheads) . Your engine makes 100+ if I make a couple minor correction(factor)s with the dyno. I can make the chart read that your engone has 100 hp. It's not accurate or true but it says so on a graph so it must be...

The reality is anyone will have to spend a lot to get 85 hp or more. If you don't do the lower end properly it will be a ticking time bomb waiting to explode. Anyone getting a true uncorrected 75 or more without going inside the motor has a strong one! We've seen piped and jetted or PC3/teka & piped SV's making 68 to 72. That seems to be normal. People boast of big numbers, the reality is they spent a lot to get them or they don't actually have them.

Don't believe everything you read. Sort through the BS. You get what you get for the money you spend. Keep your expectations realistic and you will be happy.

bobbyk

10-20-2005, 04:42 PM

i was under the impression that, at least on a 1st gen, with full system, proper jetting, desnorkeled filter, cams, milled heads, thinner head gasket, valve job, flatslides and race gas you could get to 85 or so. i guess i was wrong. what kind of numbers would you expect from this setup?

DucOwner

10-20-2005, 05:06 PM

You are inside the motor now! Yes 80~85 is a good target. Tuning and valve timing are important to making the number

bobbyk

10-20-2005, 05:23 PM

You are inside the motor now!* Yes 80~85 is a good target. Tuning and valve timing are important to making the number

i suppose so. i guess i didn't consider pulling the valve covers and swapping cams real motor work.* i was thinking more in terms of overbore kits.* good stuff.* when i finally bite the bullet and get a gsxr front end and kick myself out SS i'll do all the stuff i can't do now (or at least don't need to do).

danvetc

10-20-2005, 08:07 PM

DucOwner,

That is the first time I have been called an a$$ clown. Have you no sense of humor? This waterhead just bought a Penske shock from you, and was about to get that slipper clutch, too. Thanks for the kind thoughts, and saving me some dough on that clutch.

Charlie Daniell
Brunswick, GA

treoff

10-20-2005, 10:15 PM

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jarelj

10-20-2005, 10:37 PM

That is the first time I have been called an a$$ clown. Have you no sense of humor?

He does, but only people from another planet understand it. ::)

owndjoo

10-20-2005, 10:47 PM

with my scorpion slip on, pcIII, desnorkel,tank spacers, and 87 octane i pulled 72hp. have the video here somewhere if anyone wants to host it.

Novadesigns

10-20-2005, 11:44 PM

Funny, I've never heard Zoran bragging about hp gains. He doesn't brag much at all in my experience. Its ususally the other people around him that do that. Not his fault as far as I'm concerned.

Sorry, DucOwner but you just sound jealous to me. Not a very becoming attitude toward someone who's never been anything but extremely helpful to me.

In any case, I hope a lot of people read this thread because you guys have one thing absolutely right, there is a lot of exaggeration and bull**** on this board. Butt dyno's and braggadocio are useless!

My SV right now is about 73-74 hp with a full M4 system and an ignition advance. Surprisingly it made nearly what Suzuki claims stock... 72hp Now that's not much of a gain for a $670 exhaust, but I haven't remapped or done any airbox stuff yet. The guy that was dyno-ing my bike said I really should do that soon, but hey I only paid $30 for each run... I was just curious. ;)

I think it'd be cool to see 80hp someday, but honestly I think it would shorten the life of my motor, and since I'm not racing... is there any point to all that... for trackdays? I'm not sure. I think if I could up it another 2-3hp with the airbox mods and remap I'd be satisfied. If that's even doable.

frosty

10-21-2005, 06:47 AM

Hmm--very interesting conversation for a bloke looking for HP and torque. I spoke at length to the guys at JHS racing in the UK. I was promiced a reliable 85hp from my curvy SV.
Given that the motor started out fresh. and has fitted to it the Jhs stage 2 cams,M4 exhaust,jet kit,and advance key. Those guys use the dynojet dyno to measure the HP gains.

DucOwner

10-21-2005, 10:02 AM

Yeah, I'm jealous... That's it! ;) LMAO

tonyjuliano

10-21-2005, 10:07 AM

I'm the guy that Don was talking about getting around 85hp (84.2hp to be exact). *There have been some correct things said in this thread, but also some disinformation IMO. *Here is what I can personally vouch for.

Good Info

1) It takes thousands of dollars to get these numbers out of a SV
This is essentially correct, I have spent aproximately $2000 on power related mods.

2) You need serious motor work to get these numbers.
Yes and no. *If you consider cams, ignition, airbox and timing (along with extensive tuning) serious engine work then this is correct. *But I have had no mods made to the heads and compression is only slightly higher than stock (Thinner gaskets).

Bad Info

1) You don't need a PCIII
There is no way you will get these numbers without a meticulously designed fuel map. *You need some kind of fuel map alteration.

2) You wont make this power with pump gas.
Not true, the only reason you would need anything other than pump gas is if you seriously raise the compression level. *My bike tolerates 91 octane fule without any pinging whatsoever.

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tonyjuliano

10-21-2005, 10:23 AM

Toooooooonyyyyy. I wanna ride his bike, then ride mine, to feel the difference of ~15hp.

Dude,

Alls you gots ta do is ask...

tonyjuliano

10-21-2005, 10:38 AM

FYI,* complete list of mods (power related) made to my bike....

1) Full M4 exhaust
2) SV1k snorkel
3) Custom air box (big secret!)
4) Custom fuel map
5) Ignition Advance
6) Cams
7) Thinner head gasket
8) PCIII
9) Timing retard elininator

All this (and lot's of tuning) took my stock 2nd gen (73.6hp) to 84.3.

evilbologna

10-21-2005, 10:42 AM

Dude,

Alls you gots ta do is ask...
'

I know, I just forget each time :-[ maybe its a good thing cause if it pulls significantly harder than mine then I'll be tempted to spend lots of money I dont have...

tonyjuliano

10-21-2005, 10:44 AM

'

I know, I just forget each time :-[ maybe its a good thing cause if it pulls significantly harder than mine then I'll be tempted to spend lots of money I dont have...

What you will notice most easily is the lack of flat spot at 6 grand.

Kris87

10-21-2005, 12:44 PM

how about posting the graph of the 84.2 run?

tonyjuliano

10-21-2005, 01:06 PM

Funny, I've never heard Zoran bragging about hp gains. He doesn't brag much at all in my experience. Its ususally the other people around him that do that. Not his fault as far as I'm concerned.

Sorry, DucOwner but you just sound jealous to me. Not a very becoming attitude toward someone who's never been anything but extremely helpful to me.

In any case, I hope a lot of people read this thread because you guys have one thing absolutely right, there is a lot of exaggeration and bulls**t on this board. Butt dyno's and braggadocio are useless!

My SV right now is about 73-74 hp with a full M4 system and an ignition advance. Surprisingly it made nearly what Suzuki claims stock... 72hp Now that's not much of a gain for a $670 exhaust, but I haven't remapped or done any airbox stuff yet. The guy that was dyno-ing my bike said I really should do that soon, but hey I only paid $30 for each run... I was just curious. ;)

I think it'd be cool to see 80hp someday, but honestly I think it would shorten the life of my motor, and since I'm not racing... is there any point to all that... for trackdays? I'm not sure. I think if I could up it another 2-3hp with the airbox mods and remap I'd be satisfied. If that's even doable.

If you are @ 73-74hp now (witout mapping), you will definitely see another 3-4hp with a proper map. Cams (and another map of course) will get you over 80 from there. I don't think you will grenade your motor at this level (depends on how aggressive you are of course), but anything above 85hp and you're rolling the dice with the weak bootom end IMO.

lkm

10-21-2005, 01:42 PM

Ass clown. lmao.... ;D

bobbyk

10-21-2005, 02:36 PM

if somebody has a 1st gen with 80-85 hp (without overbore) i'd like to see that dyno run along with the mods. i remember reading about the project sv in rrw that supposedly put out 90+, but i don't think they printed the dyno run. not sure, though.

WeezerKDI

10-21-2005, 02:40 PM

Do you count the small amount of hone required for Busa pistons as overbore?

bobbyk

10-21-2005, 02:42 PM

Do you count the small amount of hone required for Busa pistons as overbore?

well, let's just say i want to know how to get there without pulling pistons.

WeezerKDI

10-21-2005, 02:57 PM

Understood. ;)

jarelj

10-21-2005, 04:03 PM

Ass clown. lmao....* ;D

Hey, that's my term, he stole that from me!!!* The term was developed for a particular gentleman at a track day at Grattan who couldn't stop pit-racing about how fast he was even though we all kept passing him every session! ;D* *He always had an excuse for why he got passed, "That one guy cut me off and screwed up my line..." "There was some debris on the track....", you know the type..... (Oh crap, what if you ARE the type........ guess I just insulted you....)* ;D ;D ;D

DucOwner

10-21-2005, 05:03 PM

Yes it is your term Jarel = A$$ Clown ;D LMAO ;D

owndjoo

10-21-2005, 05:29 PM

I'm the guy that Don was talking about getting around 85hp (84.2hp to be exact). There have been some correct things said in this thread, but also some disinformation IMO. Here is what I can personally vouch for.

Good Info

1) It takes thousands of dollars to get these numbers out of a SV
This is essentially correct, I have spent aproximately $2000 on power related mods.

2) You need serious motor work to get these numbers.
Yes and no. If you consider cams, ignition, airbox and timing (along with extensive tuning) serious engine work then this is correct. But I have had no mods made to the heads and compression is only slightly higher than stock (Thinner gaskets).

Bad Info

1) You don't need a PCIII
There is no way you will get these numbers without a meticulously designed fuel map. You need some kind of fuel map alteration.

2) You wont make this power with pump gas.
Not true, the only reason you would need anything other than pump gas is if you seriously raise the compression level. My bike tolerates 91 octane fule without any pinging whatsoever.

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Use an oxygenated fuel and you'll be able to add some more fuel for sure. When i ran vp 110 oxy my exhaust outlet turned grey from running lean, and no it's not lead. the fuel is unleaded. as soon as i put in pump, it went back to black. I'll be racing superstock next year, so basically full exhaust, k&n, pcIII and that's about it. i'd like to see somewhere over 75 on racegas. might mill the head/run thinner gasket as well.

clutch817

10-21-2005, 10:37 PM

Agree with Kris on this one. My 03 has just the SS head work done, M4, VPU4, PC3 and K&N and made 78

dietDrThunder

10-21-2005, 10:51 PM

I've got a bone-stock 1st gen w. a full Yosh pipe and jetted...I'll be dyno'ing it next weekend w. ega etc. and I'd be happy to post the charts here for ref. if anyone is interested.

bobbyk

10-22-2005, 01:09 PM

I've got a bone-stock 1st gen w. a full Yosh pipe and jetted...I'll be dyno'ing it next weekend w. ega etc. and I'd be happy to post the charts here for ref. if anyone is interested.

i am definitely interested. thanks.

Kid Thunder

10-22-2005, 10:25 PM

first gen jardine semi system k+n raised tank jetted
64.5 hp dyno chart on request...

lkm

10-22-2005, 11:15 PM

http://www.forumspile.com/Win-Assclown.jpg

way past my bed time

jarelj

10-23-2005, 01:23 PM

http://www.forumspile.com/Win-Assclown.jpg

way past my bed time

:D :D :D :D Now THAT'S funny! ;D

danvetc

10-23-2005, 03:40 PM

I don't think it was funny for you to have photoshopped that necklace onto my portrait. I really don't appreciate that.

ffkevinking

10-26-2005, 08:51 AM

just a quick thought. You can play with hp numbers all you want on a dyno but if you want a true horsepower reading you should go to someone who owns a dynojet 250i. These machines are the most true rep. of real world horsepower. However i suggest that if you are going to use your hp as a selling point DO NOT USE THIS DYNO. It will read considerably lower hp than that of other less accurate machines. exaple my aprilia dynoed at 134 hp on a reg tow around dyno (not sure of the brand i'll have to find the printout) and on a dynojet 250i that was used for individual cylinder mapping it turned a max of 120.7. Anyway my point is is that hp readings are crap. If you can't ride the bike well it doesn't matter anyway.

DucOwner

10-26-2005, 09:47 AM

ffkevinking - you don't understand, the dyno operator was using the West Coast dyno settings for your 134 hp readings and real world power settings for the 120 hp readings. :D

TWF

10-26-2005, 05:13 PM

DucOwner

10-27-2005, 08:42 AM

Zoran is right on here. No matter what you are upgrading or changing, do a baseline run and find a start point first.

The numbers are not important. I wish I could rename it SV HamsterPower or OutputWidgetNumber or anything but artificial horsepower. If your engine produced 100 hamster power and after modified it made 105 hamster power, you saw a 5% increase. Rate of change is the only true measure.

If we tested your engine and it made 68 hp corrected to sea level and 72 degrees, then we made some changes and it tested at 75 hp corrected to the exact settings. You realized about 10% increase in power output. If that number was 78 then you saw about 15% increase, at 81 you'd see about 20%.

dietDrThunder

10-29-2005, 02:53 PM

Ok, I'm back from the dyno run. I dont' have a scanner, but here are the numbers...it's a 999 SV with (3) seasons (at least) of racing on it. It's got a Yosh full pipe, and it's jetted, and it's stock apart from that. This is the Dynojet trailer dyno that most shops have (the type that read higher than the Eddy current jobs).

hp: 63.4 @ 9700RPM
tq: 41.0 @ 7400RPM

He did an EGA on it, and it appears to be quite rich. It's between 11 and 12 the whole way, and the dude says it should be at 13.5...any comments on this? If it's significantly rich, I guess this is about the HP I expected, seeing as how jetted properly it should gain maybe 3.5-4 hp, and that would put it right at 67-68hp. This is what I've been told to expect from a stock motor, so I guess once it's jetted better, it should be all good...thoughts?

I don't know anything about this stuff in any kind of specific way, so any comments are welcome.

TWF

10-29-2005, 02:55 PM

yes,it is rich and you should tune it.67/68 would be right there for stock with pipe.

dietDrThunder

10-29-2005, 10:10 PM

yes,it is rich and you should tune it.67/68 would be right there for stock with pipe.

So is that to say that judging from that data, I'm pretty mich where you'd expect me to be re: a perfectly fine SV? I mean, if I get it jetted properly, and that gets me to 67-68hp., is that what I should be expecting? Thanks!

TWF

10-30-2005, 12:02 AM

yes,that is to expect.bone stock is around 64,pipe and jetted around 67-69.
there may be little difference between bikes and some make couple more or less.

B.a.

10-30-2005, 12:20 PM

sv1000 snorkel, kn filter are wastes of money

you really dont even need the pcIII honestly

buy an m4 or leo vince full system and have it mapped with a teka box at a performance shop

you wanna go faster? spend your money on an aftermarket rear shock and reworked forks

will those help me do high way wheelies? :P

no but seriously those are the first things every one should do. just adjusting the stock rear shock will quicken your 0-60 time i think any way. i know my bike felt like it launched quicker after i bumped up the preload two settings. i think the first thing you should get for an sv is a undertail. then get fork stuff. springs emulators 20 wt oil. and a rear shock. i just got my gixxer shock and my next purchase will be race tech springs.

MOTORCOP1104

01-02-2006, 12:08 AM

My 02 SV with two bros full system, jetted, stock filter made 68 hp plus or minus 1 hp on different days. It seemed about right in the ss races but in the sb races I was getting creamed on the VIR front straight buy a couple of strong running bikes.

mike1234

01-02-2006, 07:44 AM

If you are @ 73-74hp now (witout mapping), you will definitely see another 3-4hp with a proper map.* Cams (and another map of course) will get you over 80 from there.* I don't think you will grenade your motor at this level (depends on how aggressive you are of course), but anything above 85hp and you're rolling the dice with the weak bootom end IMO.

For the fuel injected bikes we've been seeing a number of new bikes being delivered with completely different stock fuel maps in them, i.e. you can reset the ECU to 0 with a Teka box but the actual fuelling that gives you varies between bikes.

Just because one bike has seen big gains with a decent map doesn't necessarily mean others will!

mike1234

01-02-2006, 07:46 AM

just a quick thought.* You can play with hp numbers all you want on a dyno but if you want a true horsepower reading you should go to someone who owns a dynojet 250i.* These machines are the most true rep. of real world horsepower.* However i suggest that if you are going to use your hp as a selling point DO NOT USE THIS DYNO.* It will read considerably lower hp than that of other less accurate machines. exaple my aprilia dynoed at 134 hp on a reg tow around dyno (not sure of the brand i'll have to find the printout) and on a dynojet 250i that was used for individual cylinder mapping it turned a max of 120.7.* Anyway my point is is that hp readings are crap. If you can't ride the bike well it doesn't matter anyway.*

All depends on how the dyno has been configured and who the operator is. Just because it is a DynoJet 250 doesn't make it any better, or worse, than any other DynoJet dyno!

I put my bike on six different dynos over a 10 day period to test the differences and had almost a 10% difference between the high and low figures being reported.

As has already been said, pick a dyno, get the before run, make your changes and then do another run afterwards. Make sure the engine is at the same temperature as it was for the before run as it can make a big difference.

DucOwner

01-06-2006, 04:40 PM

ah yes the a$$ clown thread, hmmm... LOL

My new SV makes 150 cow power! It is awesome.

B.a.

01-06-2006, 04:57 PM

i don't see the point in putting a sv1k snorkel in. i just ripped mine out it was free and gave me a slight (and i mean slight) boost in mid range. K&N filters aren't worth the materials they are made out of. and unless your running pod filters there should be no reason to get a pcIII. a full exhaust might give you 5 peak hp but it improves your power curve greatly. my goal is to reach 80 hp. i think with a m4 full system, pod filters and a pcIII its attainable. if those three don't do it then i'm gonna go for different pistons.

TestaStretta

01-06-2006, 08:14 PM

80s? 90s!? Yikes.

Seeing how we're all getting on each other's nerves, here's some more bad news: All those numbers are high, a Superflow dyno with a built in weather station will show low 60s for a stock 2nd gen, tops. My 04 with TFI and a Hindle full system put down 64.5 while running rich. An 03 1000 with Yosh pipes and a PCIII put down 93 on the same day. R1s were showing 110-125. I'll be very pleased if my 694 engine cracks the mid 70s.

swetngblts

01-06-2006, 09:44 PM

i think with a LeoVince full system, pod filters and a pcIII its attainable.* if those three don't do it then i'm gonna go for different pistons.

Changed for you

treoff

01-07-2006, 12:44 AM

i don't see the point in putting a sv1k snorkel in.* i just ripped mine out it was free and gave me a slight (and i mean slight) boost in mid range.* K&N filters aren't worth the materials they are made out of.* and unless your running pod filters there should be no reason to get a pcIII.* a full exhaust might give you 5 peak hp but it improves your power curve greatly.* my goal is to reach 80 hp.* i think with a m4 full system, pod filters and a pcIII its attainable.* if those three don't do it then i'm gonna go for different pistons.

The 1k snorkel will allow more airflow while still keeping intake noise to a slight growl. K&Ns are worth the fact they are rechargeable... they don't really flow better then stock.

Personally for a street/occasional track-day bike I think modding this engine more than an pipe is a waist of time unless you have already dropped serious cash into the parts that really need attention (Suspension for one)

Kris87

01-07-2006, 08:17 AM

The 1k snorkel will allow more airflow while still keeping intake noise to a slight growl.

it doesnt make any more power on the dyno running back to back with the stock snorkel. neither does taking it out altogether.

treoff

01-07-2006, 09:24 AM

it doesn't make any more power on the dyno running back to back with the stock snorkel.* neither does taking it out altogether.*

Correct, it only allows more airflow, it's not like the Sv can really utilize it.

swetngblts

01-08-2006, 10:00 AM

i think with a m4 full system

Build Quality, Performance, and Bling - LeoVince
http://www.bayarearidersforum.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=148621

treoff

01-08-2006, 12:29 PM

Build Quality, Performance, and Bling - LeoVince
http://www.bayarearidersforum.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=148621

M4 Full is built off of stock maping... no PC needed :-)

ubermensch

01-08-2006, 01:49 PM

M4 Full is built off of stock maping... no PC needed :-)

Stock pipe is built off of stock mapping, no M4 needed :-)

wonderjosh

01-08-2006, 02:00 PM

Stock pipe is built off of stock mapping, no M4 needed :-)

too bad stock pipe weighs 1000lbs and poops on the sv's midrange :P

treoff

01-08-2006, 02:44 PM

too bad stock pipe weighs 1000lbs and poops on the sv's midrange :P

;D

TWF

01-09-2006, 12:12 AM

too bad stock pipe weighs 1000lbs and poops on the sv's midrange :P

which brings you down to only one choice,lightest,most power and best quality...Leo Vince. ;D

treoff

01-09-2006, 05:37 AM

which brings you down to only one choice,lightest,most power and best quality...Leo Vince. ;D

Which brings us back to, you never have one choice... M4 full is a great option too.

svschris

01-09-2006, 02:31 PM

which brings you down to only one choice,lightest,most power and best quality...Leo Vince. ;D

i think the arata pipe is just as light or lighter

TWF

01-09-2006, 02:39 PM

i think the arata pipe is just as light or lighter

dont know about Arata.I tested Leo Vince back to back with Micron and M4.
there is dyno run floating around here somewhere when I posted it.huge difference.
Leo Vince weights 9 pounds on my scale,M4 is 11.4 and Micron 13.4.
here is dyno chart and some info.
http://www.socalsvriders.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=3413&perpage=15&pagenumber=32

treoff

01-09-2006, 03:37 PM

dont know about Arata.I tested Leo Vince back to back with Micron and M4.
there is dyno run floating around here somewhere when I posted it.huge difference.
Leo Vince weights 9 pounds on my scale,M4 is 11.4 and Micron 13.4.
here is dyno chart and some info.
http://www.socalsvriders.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=3413&perpage=15&pagenumber=32

Wait wait wait... I hope dyno was of the same bike...

What generation bike/bikes was that?

How where those bike/bikes tuned?

What other mods did that/those bikes had that might work better with the Leo instread of the Micron or M4?

TWF

01-09-2006, 03:44 PM

Wait wait wait... I hope dyno was of the same bike...

What generation bike/bikes was that?

How where those bike/bikes tuned?

What other mods did that/those bikes had that might work better with the Leo instread of the Micron or M4?

that dyno was of my bike.all 3 pipes were tested within 1 hour with nothing else done to bike except taking pipe off and bolting other on.
bike was tuned originaly for Micron and not retuned for M4 or Leo Vince.
it is not stock motor but regardless of what is done to it only pipes were compared to each other.

treoff

01-09-2006, 03:47 PM

What year?

And that seems to be unfair for the M4 and surprisingly the Leo too.

TWF... I'm just messing with ya, you know I have to stand up for my system of choice or I would have to pull that sticker off my toolbox. :P

TWF

01-09-2006, 03:49 PM

What year?

it is carburated bike(99-02).
dyno run was done couple months ago.

treoff

01-09-2006, 03:50 PM

I changed the last post ...up

treoff

01-09-2006, 03:52 PM

it is carburated bike(99-02).
dyno run was done couple months ago.

Good thing.... my FIed 04 is exempt

TWF

01-09-2006, 03:53 PM

actualy I was wrong,it was done in August,months fly fast :)
Leo Vince tested was second generation exhaust system.
what is unfair?

treoff

01-09-2006, 04:01 PM

actualy I was wrong,it was done in August,months fly fast :)
Leo Vince tested was second generation exhaust system.
what is unfair?

It is very important to tune the exhaust in to get proper output. Especally with mods that will give you 85HP out of an Sv engine... that takes alot.

treoff

01-09-2006, 04:03 PM

actualy I was wrong,it was done in August,months fly fast :)

Well summer months do, winters here in NJ feel 3 years long. :D

svschris

01-09-2006, 04:26 PM

dont know about Arata.I tested Leo Vince back to back with Micron and M4.
there is dyno run floating around here somewhere when I posted it.huge difference.
Leo Vince weights 9 pounds on my scale,M4 is 11.4 and Micron 13.4.
here is dyno chart and some info.
http://www.socalsvriders.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=3413&perpage=15&pagenumber=32

my arata with the stuby canister on my bathroom scale was just under 6 pounds the arata also makes more power then the m4