Loudest Pipe

Fred2004
08-31-2005, 06:25 AM
i was wondering what the loudest pipe i can get for my bike is

i would like it to add some power too...is there a list anywhere for db ratings and hp increase?

i know it varies, but im sure some are louder than others, and some add more hp than others

right now im thinkin about gettin a carbon M4 or even a Holeshot

i also want to make the whole exhaust pipe black...what kind of coating would have to be applied to the pipe, or is there actually an aftermarket pipe that is black...i haven't found one yet

Bloodhound
08-31-2005, 06:51 AM
The "Loudest" from my past experiences have always been D&D pipes, dunno why but they are just, IMO, obnoxiously loud compared to any other pipes for any other bikes. The Six-fitty isn't gonna sound like a Big-Displacement bike if that's what yer after though....

stranger
08-31-2005, 10:26 AM
holeshots are good.

this subject comes up at least once a week - try doing a search or just reading through a few pages of threads. please, do some research before simply asking a common question.

finsvr
08-31-2005, 10:43 AM
Some clips here. The site that had all the good clips is currently down.
http://www.sv650.org/sv650_media.htm

{PMS}fishy
08-31-2005, 10:46 AM
i was wondering what the loudest pipe i can get for my bike is

i would like it to add some power too...is there a list anywhere for db ratings and hp increase?

i know it varies, but im sure some are louder than others, and some add more hp than others

right now im thinkin about gettin a carbon M4 or even a Holeshot

i also want to make the whole exhaust pipe black...what kind of coating would have to be applied to the pipe, or is there actually an aftermarket pipe that is black...i haven't found one yet


Go to the track and take a look at what the bikes are running. I see more M4 pipes out there than anything else. Seems to me that m4 makes more power across the board, and is tried and true by the racers out there.

The Holeshot is a bit louder, but I think the M4 looks better and makes more power.

stranger
08-31-2005, 12:41 PM
Go to the track and take a look at what the bikes are running. I see more M4 pipes out there than anything else. Seems to me that m4 makes more power across the board, and is tried and true by the racers out there.

The Holeshot is a bit louder, but I think the M4 looks better and makes more power.


slipons don't really make more power. you need a full system to get anything noticable.

{PMS}fishy
08-31-2005, 01:13 PM
slipons don't really make more power. you need a full system to get anything noticable.


Did I ever say slip on?

RandyO
08-31-2005, 01:48 PM
my V&H is loud, I'd compare it to almost anything except maybe a straightpiped hardley is a little louder, but I have 100,000 miles on the exaust without any repacking

stranger
08-31-2005, 01:54 PM
Did I ever say slip on?




nope, but they never specified slipon or full in the original thread.

imdbui
08-31-2005, 04:28 PM
Did I ever say slip on?




i think u compared holeshots with M4's... and holeshot only makes slip ons... so of course the M4 is gonna offer more performance

cyclerider105
08-31-2005, 05:45 PM
+1 for M4. Love mine!

Bloodhound
08-31-2005, 05:55 PM
Just so we're all on the same page here, I believe he wanted "Loudest". In my personaly opinion, yes M4 makes a much better slip-on/complete exhaust for SV's than anyone currently. They just aren't "Loud" though. ???

finsvr
08-31-2005, 06:07 PM
I agree. If I could get an extra 10db outta my pipe I'd be happy.

orangegilly
08-31-2005, 10:49 PM
Devil makes a loud exhaust. So does Holeshot. And D&D, of course.

Given the choice of the three, I'd still go with Dual Renegades. ;D

incredibleman
08-05-2006, 12:50 PM
Howdy, I'm new here. I just crashed my 1997 Green mint-cond TL1000S into a red light runner yesterday and now my most favourite of all bikes is no more. I doubt I'll find another the same, so maybe I'll end up with an SV1000. Anyway, I had a full race Yosh RS-3 system on the TL and I absolutely loved the sound and character of the bike with that exhaust. But a friend of mine has a Honda VTX1800 with unbelievably loud pipes and when I went riding with him if he was within a mile his flatulent elephant sound would drown out my TL's exhaust, (and his bike was loud too), which I found annoying enough to understand why a TL or SV owner would seek the loudest exhaust. But louder doesn't necessarily mean sweeter sounding, so that's why I'm searching the forums. But what I'm finding is everybody who's ever heard one system thinks it's the best, and nobody seems to have been able to do side-by-side comparisons.

alabaster
08-05-2006, 03:16 PM
Dunno Fred. I just put an M4 on my 650, and it is plenty loud. I ran it for a day with no pipe at all, and I swear that it didn't quiet it down all that much when I put the can on. Seriously, it's LOUD.

I'd also like to find out howe to black out the pipes, as I want everything on my bike either red or flat black. I thought of header tape, but someone mentioned that it may be detrimental to the bike. Consider this a bump I suppose, if anyone has info on this please holler.

Nudist
08-05-2006, 03:25 PM
my V&H is loud, I'd compare it to almost anything except maybe a straightpiped hardley is a little louder, but I have 100,000 miles on the exaust without any repacking


So pretty much it doesnt have any packing....

debella
08-05-2006, 04:24 PM
Dunno Fred. I just put an M4 on my 650, and it is plenty loud. I ran it for a day with no pipe at all, and I swear that it didn't quiet it down all that much when I put the can on. Seriously, it's LOUD.

I'd also like to find out howe to black out the pipes, as I want everything on my bike either red or flat black. I thought of header tape, but someone mentioned that it may be detrimental to the bike. Consider this a bump I suppose, if anyone has info on this please holler.


For flat black, go for Duplicolor High Temperture engine enamel with ceramic in "Low Gloss Black," the color is nearly identical to the satin black of 2nd gen frames. Check it:

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b158/jdebella/suzuki/blksuzuki006.jpg

alabaster
08-05-2006, 05:09 PM
Stupid 'puter won't let me see the pic. Do you have to do any prep work, scuffing, priming etc?

RandyO
08-06-2006, 11:32 AM
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Quote from: RandyO on August 31, 2005, 02:48:42 PM
my V&H is loud, I'd compare it to almost anything except maybe a straightpiped hardley is a little louder, but I have 100,000 miles on the exaust


So pretty much it doesnt have any packing....



packing has been gone for well over 50,000 miles, I think about 15,000 miles ago, I heard it spit the rusted burnt & broken baffle out to.. I think it's just a hollow echo chamber now

orangegilly
08-06-2006, 02:38 PM
.... But louder doesn't necessarily mean sweeter sounding, so that's why I'm searching the forums. But what I'm finding is everybody who's ever heard one system thinks it's the best, and nobody seems to have been able to do side-by-side comparisons.


I hear you on the loud not necessarily equalling sweet-sounding.* I've heard a bunch of different exhausts on the SV, hell, I had three different ones on my own bike.* The short list: dual renegades (currently on my bike), single renegade, holeshot, yosh, M4 / V&H (both formerly on bike), V&H, D&D, Jardine, ART, 2Bros, Devil, Remus, Leo Vince, Micron, Muzzy, Staintune, and I'm sure a couple more I'm forgetting at the moment.

IMO, if you want loud, the D&D, ART, and Leo Vince would be your pipes of choice.* If you want sweet sound (nice and deep but not excessively loud), dual renes, ART, yosh.* Again, my opinion.

And if you want black pipes, the best way (albeit more expensive) is to have the headers/midpipes ceramic coated.* Some, but not all, powder coaters can do this.* The one that did mine charged $130.* Here's a pic:

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b291/grimreaperOG/SV039.jpg

Sean Newman
08-06-2006, 02:48 PM
Not sure about loud, but as far as quality and overall awesomeness, they are Akrapovic, Yoshimura, Termignoni, and Leo Vince (in no order).

All the others are the ho-hum average brands.

The only problem with the ones above though is that they are crazy expensive, for probably only a 5% better product, but hey, being the best costs money.

orangegilly
08-06-2006, 03:17 PM
Not sure about loud, but as far as quality and overall awesomeness, they are Akrapovic, Yoshimura, Termignoni, and Leo Vince (in no order).

All the others are the ho-hum average brands.

The only problem with the ones above though is that they are crazy expensive, for probably only a 5% better product, but hey, being the best costs money.


Oh yeah, add Akrapovic to my list. Heard that one too.

FWIW, more expensive doesn't necessarily mean they're the best (i.e., most power or best sound). Typically, more expensive gets you better materials/workmanship and maybe development, but not always.

novakane
08-06-2006, 11:14 PM
you want a loud pipe? buy whatever and take the slipon part off. i fell in love with that sound. i wish i could just leave it off but im afraid it'll **** my bike up :(

Northwind
08-07-2006, 06:23 AM
Not sure about loud, but as far as quality and overall awesomeness, they are Akrapovic, Yoshimura, Termignoni, and Leo Vince (in no order).

All the others are the ho-hum average brands.


You've never encountered Arrow, clearly.

Sean Newman
08-07-2006, 07:21 AM
You've never encountered Arrow, clearly.


Yeah I still wouldn't put Arrow as better than the four I listed, but instead of grouping all other brands together below those four, I could have said "and all other brands are somewhere between these brands and junk".

Arrow, D&D, Jardine, M4, Two Bros, Micron, Scorpion, Hindle, Holeshot, etc can all fight over the scraps, but Akro, Yosh, LV, and Term are the best brands.

Northwind
08-07-2006, 12:52 PM
Nah. Seriously, the quality of welding is superior to Yoshi... And according to TWF among others, the power gain is superior to most of the others you think are "better".

Sean Newman
08-07-2006, 02:15 PM
Nah. Seriously, the quality of welding is superior to Yoshi... And according to TWF among others, the power gain is superior to most of the others you think are "better".


Not basing anything on my opinion. I still have a stock pipe, so I'm unbias.

I'm making my opinion from what the big guys use. I think Yoshimura knows a little bit about Suzuki, but once I see a top running "Arrow Suzuki" team, I might think different. I know that pretty much every company has one guy in their pocket, but the brands I named have the most.

Anything else is someone's opinion who took other things into account (like price).

orangegilly
08-07-2006, 02:31 PM
Not basing anything on my opinion. I still have a stock pipe, so I'm unbias.

I'm making my opinion from what the big guys use. I think Yoshimura knows a little bit about Suzuki, but once I see a top running "Arrow Suzuki" team, I might think different. I know that pretty much every company has one guy in their pocket, but the brands I named have the most.

Anything else is someone's opinion who took other things into account (like price).


Sorry, Sean, but "general awesomeness" sure sounds like opinion in my book, so you can't say your rating is totally unbiased.

I suppose all the teams that run Arrow don't know their exhausts very well.* I can't imagine Troy Corser could have won the 2005 WSB Championship with a cut-rate exhaust, but apparently he did.* Just take a look through the Arrow Racing rider/team list.* I think you'd be surprised that they have a pretty long history of championships on all different types of bikes, not just Suzukis.

http://www.arrow.it/arrow-racing/eng/piloti/default.asp

NHSVnaked
08-07-2006, 02:37 PM
Screw loud. Get a nice throaty one that wont get you into trouble

Sean Newman
08-07-2006, 02:54 PM
As above, not saying Arrow is junk. Certainly better than the other average brands, but IMO it's not on par with with other four I listed.

It's a moot point though, because the kinds of differences with a four-stroke engine's exhaust are too close to ever really matter. It's not like a two-stroke exhaust where the shape of the expansion chamber is critical and can mean a 20% difference in performance. Pretty much any company who cares at all is going to have an almost friction free environment.

Northwind
08-07-2006, 06:32 PM
In case you're wondering, i don't have an Arrow- I run a WRP Lite all-titanium system that doesn't even make your reckoning, as there's only about 10 in the world ;) Amazing what you can find on Ebay :) Also got a stainless one the same. Neither sets the world on fire, they're good solid systems. The ti one weighs basically nothing, it's made out of cobwebs and fairy dust. Cost me less than a Yoshimura or Akrapovic slipon ;)

biff
08-07-2006, 07:00 PM
Sorry, Sean, but "general awesomeness" sure sounds like opinion in my book, so you can't say your rating is totally unbiased.

I suppose all the teams that run Arrow don't know their exhausts very well. I can't imagine Troy Corser could have won the 2005 WSB Championship with a cut-rate exhaust, but apparently he did. Just take a look through the Arrow Racing rider/team list. I think you'd be surprised that they have a pretty long history of championships on all different types of bikes, not just Suzukis.

http://www.arrow.it/arrow-racing/eng/piloti/default.asp


HAHAHA
the 'newest' postwhore just got b*tched slapped again. (seriously, 12 posts a day, and 90% of them aren't worth sh*t)
****. after awhile i would think you would just let sh*t go... but, nope you just keep on coming.

Sean Newman
08-07-2006, 07:03 PM
HAHAHA
the 'newest' postwhore just got b*tched slapped again. (seriously, 12 posts a day, and 90% of them aren't worth sh*t)
****. after awhile i would think you would just let sh*t go... but, nope you just keep on coming.


1. Nodoby has enough game here to shut me up, because I'll have witty comebacks to anything (until the moderators censor me, doh :-X)

2. I don't think you can consider me ***** slapped because someone said Arrow made better exhausts than Yoshimura or Akrapovic. Once we see Arrow exhausts on more than one-two real riders (or anywhere near the numbers Yoshimura is seen on), and his opinion will mean more than 2 cents.

TWF
08-07-2006, 07:10 PM
I'm making my opinion from what the big guys use. I think Yoshimura knows a little bit about Suzuki

do you think that sticker on pipe is what big guys actualy use?
AMA factory team honda used Jardine.only Jardine part is plate riveted to pipe.
companies that spend time to try different shape and size for that particular bikes are the ones that have best pipe.name means nothing.

Northwind
08-08-2006, 06:43 AM
There's a visit to the Akrapovic factory and an interview with Igor Akrapovic in this month's performance bikes... And of the top-level race bikes in the factory having exhausts built (inc moto gp and WSB), an awful lot carry someone else's logo once they're out on track ;) They'd gone to some lengths to hide some of them... Igor seems to find it pretty funny.

TestaStretta
08-08-2006, 08:22 AM
Mine. It's a Hindle Supersport 18" straight pipe with all the packing burned out. I'm actually replacing it with a Stealth baffled can because it is waaay to loud, especially here in downtown Montreal.

Bad Moon
08-08-2006, 03:43 PM
Loud pipes are for squids.

I run a D&D ;D

but only on the track. It's way to loud for the street, even after repacking it. I paid $50 bucks for it; it's a full system.

I know of a guy that races a Hysong (sp) 650 with a motogp style megaphone on it. It is actually quieter than a friends RC51 running D&D pipes.

BTW, pro race teams run the pipes they do because that particular company pays them the most to put their name on the bike. If MAC pipe company paid Honda more than Jardine you would see MAC on the side of the Honda.

elbarto
08-20-2006, 04:43 PM
man u guys and or girls are getting off topic here. but everyone should realize what exhaust is good for racing might not be good for the street. power alone does not win races. racers do alot of high speed riding which requires higher end power and most street riders do alot of low speed riding which requires more low and mid range power. differen't muffler/exhaust combinations will give you different power curves. and* besides the power gains you get by just doing an exhaust system or slip-on with out remaping or jetting, cam changes, sprocket changes, etc.. is slim to none.* someone said before that a 650 is not going to have that big bore sound and they are right! even with the mufler off the bike it is not that loud! so do what has been suggested and get something with a good tone and a nice look. and if you want more power get a sv1000! and if that is still not enough get a turboed busa! or if you want your bike to feel faster get a quick turn throttle from the sv race shop.

bluebandit
09-28-2006, 11:50 AM
I have a full yosh TRS CF exhaust and the loudest thing i've ever heard in my life, is when i take the canister off and run the dogpiss outta it. i know it's not good on the motor, but ****it sounds sweet at around 6 grand. almost ridiculous at 11 ;D

Chilltake
10-01-2006, 04:50 AM
Well I thought to add my 2 cents on loud pipes. I think that loud isn't the way to go, many a liter twin is going to be louder anyway then the 650's. But you can go for a nice deep tone and a nice grunt to it. Personally I did an airbox mod to completly remove my intake sound (I hate intake sound) and am running a dual ixil system (baffled). It's loud, but not to the point where people start throwing at you. I haven't even dared to take the baffles out yet. I posted a sound file (somewhere, gotta look for the link) if you want to hear.

In short: Get a dual exhaust for a nice deep stereo sound to put an ear to ear smile on your face ;)

JMB1728
10-24-2006, 05:00 PM
I bought a full race hi mount micron exhaust on Ebay. AND IT IS LOUD. Before i repacked it, it was almost too loud. After i repacked it its still loud but it has a sweet deep throaty sound.

militarymatt1980
08-02-2007, 03:36 AM
I can't say that I know much about the other systems, but I bought an '03 SV1000 last year with DND slip-ons already on it (about 5000K on pipes) and it absolutely drowns out anything around me. It is SO loud that I actually went out and spent the money to get a new set of Yoshi RS-3 slip-ons (w/ silencer) hoping to stop getting the wrong kind of attention (cops) and stop the neighbours from *****ing.
The new Yoshi pipes make a nice sound when you get on it, and it won't **** everyone around you off - like my old D&D's.
If anyone is interested, I'm selling the D&D's for $300 USD (plus shipping from Germany) Let me know and I'll send you pics....

militarymatt1980@yahoo.ca

I had a question too - my bike came with the Dobeck techlusion box, K&N filter, and D&D pipes already on it. I found that when it got warm (especially on the highway for a couple of hours) it would pop when I got off the throttle and if I cracked the throttle at night it would actually shoot flames out the back (ladies love it, but again not cool with cops). I'm told that it is running really rich?? I never got any manual, cables, etc for the dobeck box. Does anyone know of a site that I can get to and put my specifics (K&N, yoshi pipes) and get a diagram of where to adjust the 3 dials to on the Dobeck box??

Sean Newman
08-02-2007, 05:28 PM
Grumbly pipes are good. Loud pipes just for the sake of being loud are retarded and ghey.

Wow, good job...you're bragging that you're inconsiderate of other people...woohoo!

Added: This is not meant for the originator of this post, just people who want louder pipes.

militarymatt1980
08-02-2007, 10:23 PM
Actually if you read my post it CLEARLY says - and I quote "It is SO loud that I actually went out and spent the money to get a new set of Yoshi RS-3 slip-ons (w/ silencers) hoping to stop getting the wrong kind of attention" from the D&D pipes that the bike came with.

But thanks for that! It really helped out with the question that I posted at the bottom......

Anybody else with a comment about how "inconsiderate" of others I am rather than an answer to the question that I posted?

chad
09-25-2007, 05:43 PM
i havent seen many other pipes for sv's when i bought my 2000 sv650s it sounded like a lawn more haha so i went for the badest loudest pipe i could find and it sounds amazing the tailgunner ... turns heads everywhere .. i was pulled over by a cop jist because he wanted to get the name of the pipe because he wants one for his bike haha check it out www.tailgunnerexhaust.com

ryrides
09-26-2007, 08:08 PM
two brothers are pretty loud and the yoshi pipes are too if you remove the baffle.and lets not crucify someone for asking a question and not using the search function, maybe he/she is new or maybe they had no luck with the function.everyone on here has asked questions before going to the search function.

jimmybluedevil
10-14-2007, 01:50 PM
i havent seen many other pipes for sv's when i bought my 2000 sv650s it sounded like a lawn more haha so i went for the badest loudest pipe i could find and it sounds amazing the tailgunner ... turns heads everywhere .. i was pulled over by a cop jist because he wanted to get the name of the pipe because he wants one for his bike haha check it out www.tailgunnerexhaust.com

Youre kidding right?

jackattack650
04-07-2008, 04:15 PM
I got a remus on mine and it adds some power and has a great sound it's not that loud though but has a nice aggressive growl ;D

Highlyrated
04-17-2008, 10:06 AM
Carbon Can Company exhaust is loudest ive heard!

gsracer
04-17-2008, 10:25 AM
do you think that sticker on pipe is what big guys actualy use?
AMA factory team honda used Jardine.only Jardine part is plate riveted to pipe.
companies that spend time to try different shape and size for that particular bikes are the ones that have best pipe.name means nothing.

thank you....

uknowme
04-18-2008, 07:20 PM
I have a Leo Vince on mine and I love the sound. I then removed the airbox snorkel, added a K&N and velocity stacks and it's WAY louder but not in a squid way. I love the backfire sounds I get when downshifting too!

solidONE
04-18-2008, 07:28 PM
2.25" straight pipe inplace of a muffler would be as loud as they get. Not to mention cheap. If you still want a "muffler" just go with the smallest muffler you can find that will fit around the big end of the stock merge collector, tack it on and you will have plenty of sound.

If you want HP's you can go wrong with a full M4 system. They are pretty loud.

frankieg87
04-26-2008, 11:16 PM
i got a great sound comming from my scorpion street extreme with the baffle removed

doublet74
04-26-2008, 11:27 PM
Goto youtube.com and search SV650 exhaust and make your own opinion:p

swiest152
04-26-2008, 11:30 PM
my 650 it loud, way too loud for that matter. Doesn't sound like a 650 either. It gets mistaken for 1000 vtwins and buells.

If you want loud get as short headers.............